What's oppo's stance on lowered trucks?

"Luc - The Acadian Oppo" (luc5) 02/24/2015 at 21:16 • Filed to: None

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I personally love them. Yes 4x4 would be more useful but since I don't do any off roading I feel 4x4 is a waste of money. I live in Edmonton AB so you must be thinking wouldn't you want 4x4 for snow? well yes you would for the 4-5 days a year you actually need it. For the other ~360 days a year the 4x4 doesn't get utilized. Winter tires are a way better investment for snow than 4x4. I'd rather save the $5-8K get a 2wd instead of 4x4 and lower it.

This 2014 Sierra is sporting a 4/7" drop, 22x9" wheels & 285/40R22 tires and I think it looks perfect.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:18

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Why screw with the suspension geometry? I'd rather still be able to tow the Audi behind it.

Justin T. Westbrook > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:19

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That's actually pretty cool but I can't help but think you couldn't load, say, mulch after dropping it. A ladder and some furniture wouldn't be a problem, but anything with.. weight.. would be wouldn't it?

TheHondaBro > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:22

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I used to see a lowered dually driving around. It made me mad.

Nibby > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:23

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Lowering a truck sounds like a complete waste IMO.

aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:24

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lowered trucks are cool

this is my favorite lowered truck

i could care less about its fame i just love the way it looks

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Justin T. Westbrook 02/24/2015 at 21:24

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With a set of air helper springs you could do the same stuff you could do while stock.

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:26

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I don't mind the look, but when I had my truck, part of the appeal was the ability to be spontaneous. Now, I had a 2000 TuRD with the chunky tires and other stuff and I lived on 30 acres. So, if any issue ever arose or really anything the truck was up for it. There were countless times where the truck saved the day, or allowed us to do something because of what it was.

For Sweden > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:26

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They're a poor excuse for a ute.

lone_liberal > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:26

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Not my thing, but I see trucks as work vehicles so I judge modifications on how much they aid hauling crap in the bed. Obviously other people have different opinions.

camaroboy68ss > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:26

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the only way to have a truck is to lower it

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 02/24/2015 at 21:27

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It can't be any worst that installing a lift kit. And stock is not for me but I don't need a truck for the same reasons you do so really it all depends on what you use it for. For me I'd still be able to do everything I need with this, for you probably not.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe 02/24/2015 at 21:28

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the most bad ass truck! I LOVE this thing! THE SOUND!

ly2v8-Brian > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:28

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Yes. Take a couple inches off the ride height new trucks aren't gargantuan any more, in fact they are quite similar in size to older models. One of the reasons I bought a RWD truck was because it sits an inch lower.

dogisbadob > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:29

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You should get a Blackwood. Basically a sedan with a big trunk. Useless as an actual truck anyway, so a lowered Blackwood would be perfect for you.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:30

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You tend to have more available travel in the extension direction than the compression direction. Plus reducing available travel will affect load carrying capacity.

Some of us use our trucks as trucks, and do truckish things with them, like tow race cars.

Justin T. Westbrook > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:32

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Sounds expensive. It would at least knock out any savings from going 2wd, and then you have to decide what kind of truck guy you are - money on 4wd or money on 2wd, lowered, with new suspension set up just to use the truck bed? Which I suppose you'll have to decide anyway.

I think this is the only way I'd own a truck, as in a vehicle with a bed. I've never been comfortable with the ride height and I am not confident with the tail end. Me thinks lowered would help me be at least aesthetically pleased. But then.. why not buy a car if you want a car.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > lone_liberal 02/24/2015 at 21:32

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And I see a truck as the most affordable way to get a 4 door RWD V8. The fact that it's useful is just a bonus.

The Charger R/T is the cheapest 4door RWD V8 car you can buy in Canada and it's 10K more than the truck would be.

A truck is crazy good value is you put fuel economy aside.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:34

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As long as you aren't ruining the functionality of it, I don't care which direction you go.

Milky > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:35

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But uh why? I still can't go around corners or accelerate like a car and can't do truck things ….. sooooo …...

BJ > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:35

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I like it, simple and clean. I would have probably chosen to put thicker rubber, but the rest is good.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:38

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Personally I don't like it, but I'd actually use it for 4x4 things and for truck things so....

lone_liberal > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:38

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That's valid. I see them as horribly overweight for a performance vehicle with compromised braking and handling that takes more time and money to fix than what was saved in the purchase. Again, that's my view and yours is just as legit. Fixing up a classic muscle car probably makes just as little logical sense yet I'm all in on that so I'm not claiming that it's anything other than personal taste.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Justin T. Westbrook 02/24/2015 at 21:40

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Springs are cheap. The whole suspension with the helper springs would set you back about $1200 bucks and thats pretty reasonable if you ask me. Trucks are the most affordable way to get a 4 door RWD V8 in Canada. The fact that it's useful is just a bonus.

The Charger R/T is the cheapest 4door RWD V8 car you can buy in Canada and it's 10K more than the truck would be.

A truck is crazy good value is you put fuel economy aside.

Sinanigans > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:42

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Don't mind them at all... in fact I find lowered S10's to be the bees knees!

XJDano > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:44

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I'm ok with it.

Stephen the Canuck > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:48

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I like them. Mostly the smaller trucks. I love mini trucks. I would like to take my brother's Colorado and turn it into a mini truck. Or get a Ford Ranger and coyote swap it and make it handle.

ly2v8-Brian > Sinanigans 02/24/2015 at 21:50

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Those wheels are awesome

ly2v8-Brian > TheHondaBro 02/24/2015 at 21:51

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Jealousy will do that.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Stephen the Canuck 02/24/2015 at 21:52

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I'm digging that one! Small trucks are becoming a rarity and I don't know what kind of aftermarket support the new colorado/canyon will get as far as lowering kits. I almost bought a brand new ford ranger reg cab 4cyl 8 years ago when they were only like $14K brand new in Canada. I wanted to make a mini truck out of it. I still kick myself for not buying it.

rcwrewqcrewq > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 21:54

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Get winter tires for snow, not 4x4.

ly2v8-Brian > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 22:01

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well yes you would for the 4-5 days a year you actually need it. For the other ~360 days a year the 4x4 doesn't get utilized. Winter tires are a way better investment for snow than 4x4.

Just wanted to say with regards to this statement, abso-fucking-lutely. The number one reason I have a RWD truck. I get a bit better mileage because I don't have to lug around almost a quarter ton of dead weight. My Silverado has an auto locking diff. In fact it is actually difficult to kick the tail out in it (and I'm just running all seasons on it). I got a lot better truck for the money. And I live in Minnesota, so yes it sees frequent winter driving. Other positives, because it is a v8 it heats up faster (which is important on those sub-zero days), the seats are really comfortable, and of course all that beautiful v8 noise.

Stephen the Canuck > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 22:11

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This is my brother's truck. It would be great to turn into a mini truck.

That Ranger would have been perfect to turn into a mini truck.

I like the smaller trucks. I have to ideal sizes of trucks. The first is the 1st generation Colorado/Canyon in four door 4x4 z71 trim. The second is the 5th generation GM K1500.

JDMatt > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 22:14

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i approve

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > ly2v8-Brian 02/24/2015 at 22:16

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WheelVintiques smoothies in two of the pictures, unless I miss my guess.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > rcwrewqcrewq 02/24/2015 at 22:16

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Winter tires are a way better investment for snow than 4x4.

That's exactly what I said.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > ly2v8-Brian 02/24/2015 at 22:18

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I'm glad we are on the same page on that subject.

Katsumoto > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 22:18

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As an owner of a lowered truck, its different. I bought it to make a more modern hot rod(if you could say that). The guy I got it from asked what my intention was with his old truck and I told him, low and a V8.

My little Sierra is 2WD extended cab. It started life with a 4.3 6 banger, now it has a 6.2L V8 out of a newer Sierra.

Grant it, I lost all towing capabilities doing so. I don't care, never planned on towing with it and if I do, I'm sure they make hitches for lowered trucks, just like for the lifted guys.

this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 22:18

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I'm ok with it, because muscle truck.

ly2v8-Brian > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 02/24/2015 at 22:19

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The S10 I had was the same color as the first one, that looks awesome that combo.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Katsumoto 02/24/2015 at 22:20

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I'd like to see some pics of this thing if you have some. I'm in the same boat no need for towing but a truck is fantastic value up here in Canada(cheaper than equivalent car).

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata 02/24/2015 at 22:20

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FUCK YEAH!!!

blacktruck18 > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 22:21

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I am must say, I am a fan.

Ignore the shitty taillights, license plate and, wheels. These pics were from the day I got it.

IMO 4WD's go up, 2WD's go down, and that Sierra is awesome. I love black wheels on a white vehicle.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > blacktruck18 02/24/2015 at 22:22

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4WD's go up, 2WD's go down

That is 100% correct!

Katsumoto > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 22:23

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I'll get some, some time.

It's been in the garage since it snowed. LOL, my truck is my baby. Just got this new computer, going to move my shit over sooner or later from the old one.

I've never been much for pictures of cars that my friends/family see regularly.

Sinanigans > ly2v8-Brian 02/24/2015 at 22:26

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Yeah, somehow whitewalls and Moon Caps are amazing on these trucks.

Katsumoto > Katsumoto 02/24/2015 at 22:28

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Looks alot like this one. I got the cheap chrome steelies on mine. Other than lowered and the motor, and a different grille, its stock. Did 60k as some company truck. Look hard enough and you'll see the stickers old placement in the side.

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Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > ly2v8-Brian 02/24/2015 at 22:29

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Red steelies of any kind are massive CalzoneGolemBait, IIRC, with or without baby moon hubcaps.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 22:51

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I like it a lot. It probably makes it more usable day-to-day as well. Low profiles on the other hand are no bueno

Excuse my rant, but wheels really should only be big enough to clear your calipers. Anything larger is foolhardy, expensive, and juvenile.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed 02/24/2015 at 22:54

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I'd probably go 20's over 22's. but 17's would look weird on a lowered truck me thinks.

I agree it probably makes the truck better for day to day use.

shop-teacher > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/24/2015 at 23:46

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I like a mild lowering, as long as the truck is still usable as a truck. I considered lowering my truck when I first bought it, since it is 2wd. I was thinking just a 2-3 drop, but I elected to stick with the more practical stock height. Now that I tow a camper, I'm glad I didn't lower it.

Maxi Cooper ¯\_()_/¯ > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/25/2015 at 00:33

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Lol, Oppo's "stance"... amirite?

#STANCENATION

I'll see myself out.

boxrocket > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/25/2015 at 10:31

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I'm OK with them, as long as they aren't too low.

That said, Ram/Jeep, Land Rover, Toyota/Lexus, Mercedes, etc., offer factory air suspensions which offer lower heights (usually termed for easier access, and tend to automatically raise up upon reaching certain speeds), as well as higher "off-road" settings. Best of both worlds, from the factory, and widely available on the used market.

Finally, I would be massively irritated of someone took a purpose-built factory vehicle and modified it to be the opposite if its intent. For example, taking a Ram SRT-10 or F-150 Lightning and giving it a lift kit and chunky tires, or "slamming" a Raptor.

TJDMAX > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 02/25/2015 at 10:39

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It doesn't effect the geometry. Most likely the kit he would use is a knuckle kit. So what it does is replaces the knuckle with one that has the mount for the unit bearing cast higher than the stock knuckle...thus lowering the wheel. And then it uses some shackles for the rear leaf springs to raise them up again lowering the rear. So all things considered equal the geometry doesn't change...he would just have much more down travel (droop) than up travel. But its not messing with the geometry.

TJDMAX > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/25/2015 at 10:46

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Before i give my opinion it should just me mentioned that who really cares what other people think of your vehicle. Its YOUR choice so if it pleases you....who cares what others think.

Now i'm not a fan of lowered modern trucks. I personally think they should be a bit higher, have some slightly larger tires on there, and be able to do work whenever and wherever the situation may arise. I also have an issue with 2wd trucks because i think trucks should be 4x4 even if somewhere where its not "Needed" every day...its one of those things that could be useful at a moments notice and handy to have. Yes i know you can add air bags for load support etc...but its still not as useful of a vehicle to me as a standard height of slightly lifted 4x4 truck is. I think of trucks as tools, and i own a Chevy 2500hd Duramax truck and have modified it to enhance its ability as a "tool" to get jobs done.

Now i do think that older C10 trucks look good a little lower. And as a muscle truck i think given their smaller size and lower weight to begin with they could be made to handle better than the newer trucks. But i see your point...that trucks are a cheap way to get a powerful RWD V8 vehicle. And with how nice the new trucks are...they rival some european cars of a few years back in terms of creature comforts...so your reasoning is logical. I wouldn't do it...but its not my choice!

Good luck with whatever you decide. Don't let people sway you. If you want it, and justify it in your head, go for it!

MonkeePuzzle > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/25/2015 at 10:55

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they look hot and they're easy to load :D what's not to like?

Nibbles > TheHondaBro 02/25/2015 at 12:38

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My brother built an '80 C30 dually crew cab. Dropped just far enough off the ground to clear driveways, Cummins 6BT mated to a 6 speed manual. It was delicious, particularly because he kept the original black/grey '70s paint

Nibbles > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/25/2015 at 12:44

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My brother built an '80 GMC C30 dually, slammed with a Cummins 6BT and 6-speed manual

My other brother and I built a bagged '55 Ford F100 with a 302HO and some trick hardware

I owned a '91 Chevy 454SS, Belltech lowered 3'' / 4'' with MagnaFlows and a GearVendor

I like trucks, including ones that are LOW

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > TJDMAX 02/25/2015 at 12:45

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I think trucks should be 4x4 even if somewhere where its not "Needed" every day...its one of those things that could be useful at a moments notice and handy to have.

I agree with you on all points except I find getting a 4x4 because it might become handy as logical as living in texas and buying a snowmobile. Yes it is awesome to have the option but $8K is a lot to spend for "just in case". Lets say I get snowed in and I can't get to work because I don't have 4x4. I can afford to miss over 50 days of work unpaid before the 4x4 made financial sense. The fact that where I live(I live in Northern Alberta. It's fucking cold but it doesn't snow much) I can count on one hand how many times a year it is "needed". For example I daily drove a Challenger SRT8 for 3 years and only one day out of those 3 years I really wished I had a 4x4.

I'm not trying to justify my opinion I'm stating facts.

But if you go offroading or use your truck for work purposes than it can easily be justified to spend the extra money.

TJDMAX > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/25/2015 at 14:04

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Wow it is really an 8 grand option?!?! I find that very surprising...But i haven't shopped new trucks in a long time.

I guess i was more thinking of other situations than just snow. Say you have to go pick up some stuff from a friends house and they live down a dirt road and it just rained and you have to go through a creek. Potentially a weird situation but who knows...could happen.

But stuff like that. The things you can't plan for. "My buddy got his vehicle stuck in a ditch and its raining and i need to pull him out" type situation.

It looks like its a 3 grand difference on Chevy's website. Expensive yes but not 8 grand...

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > TJDMAX 02/25/2015 at 14:46

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I guess you are right in Canada 4x4 is a $3800 option not so bad but if you don't need it it still seems like a waste.

TJDMAX > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/25/2015 at 15:16

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Very true. It all comes down to how you want to justify it and what your plans for the truck are.

64C10 > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/26/2015 at 21:45

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I LOVE lowered trucks, especially classics (55-85 GM), and the lower the better! At least on bags, anyways :)

Tohru > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/27/2015 at 11:16

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I just drive a minitruck and call it good.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/27/2015 at 11:46

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I like how they look. Just don't be that guy who thinks he can still haul a load of bricks with his truck and is riding the bump stops the whole way home

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 02/27/2015 at 11:51

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10k also buys you a LOT of fuel...people never seem to understand that when buying a vehicle

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 02/27/2015 at 11:52

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My thoughts exactly.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 02/27/2015 at 11:55

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The most I ever haul would be a 350lbs dirt bike. so really it wouldn't be an issue for me. I don't "need" a truck per say but I like V8 and RWD and a truck is the least expensive way to get that with 4 doors. It's just a big bonus that this looks totally bitchin'.